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Escape Through the Insula by RhysGriffiths Escape Through the Insula by RhysGriffiths
Tried some new things here.. made some mistakes, and learned some valuable lessons. :)
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arbiterofelegance Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016
I love the theme and time period you have captured here
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2016
Thank you :) That's one of my favourite parts of doing painting.. reading about certain time periods and trying to bring them to life!
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BiwerVincent Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Really love the feel you got in this one, I like the big city scape but the more intimate point of view And the clothes on the girl running. that's exactly my kind of paintings.
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2016
Thanks man ;)
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geoff225 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Looks very Dornish to me. I like it!
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
What is Dornish? Blush 
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geoff225 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2016
Dorne is a country in Westeros, the place Game Of Thrones takes place. 
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2016
Ah right :)
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Spellsword95 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Dorne is a country in the world of Game of Thrones - an exotic location set in a desert, much like in your painting.
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2016
Ah cool, I haven't watched that yet. I just referenced the villas in Ancient Rome. :)
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HDeer Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Wonderful painting. I just wish it was little higher, because it seems like soldier face was cut off (not sure if that was intentional). Love the girl in motion. Very inspiring.
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2016
Thank you :) Yeah I tried to do some cinematic cropping.. as if he is some faceless guard or enemy. But you're the second person to say that to me so I guess I didn't pull it off lol!
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thinkubus Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Professional
Looking through your work you have a real knack for using natural colour palettes, which is refreshing to see as a large majority of the work on DA (including my own) favours absurd colour palettes haha. Do you use references at all for your colours or do you work them up by eye?
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Thank you :)
I'm glad to hear that because it's actually something I've been working on recently.

For your colours to look natural you have to identify the temperature of the light you want to use. Here I'm using a yellowish light.
That means everything will take on a yellowish tint - all the blue clothing here is painted green, all the greens take on a yellowish lime green sort of colour, the reds should turn orange where hit by light (I could've done this better I think) and the far wall which probably has a natural colour of light white/yellow becomes even more yellow.
This also means I shouldn't have any primary colours other than yellow in my scene, because there is no colour mixed with yellow which = blue or red, therefore if I select any colour with a colour picker it shouldn't be pure red or blue in hue.
Starting with a coloured underpainting is a really good way to get started - in this case I grabbed this image (www.hyoe.co.jp/blog/staff/hyoe…) and stretched it across the page and used it to sample my initial colours (you can still see some parts of it on the right side of the painting if you look closely ^^). It's a great way to get started and gives you something to compare to. If you're unsure how red should look, for example, you could just paint it lightly over the underpainting and let it blend naturally.

I have a big folder of references of different lighting conditions as well- I often study them to see how colours reacts under different lighting scenarios. Although the general premise is much like mixing paint, it's nice to have a reference to see exactly what skin colour or white cloth etc should look under certain lighting conditions.
I didn't do it here but sampling directly from photos is a great way to get a colour palette that looks natural, and you can adjust it from there once you have the colours down. I would highly recommend doing that if you can find a photo or a master painting with the sort of colours that you want. Then you have to apply your colour theory to make sure you don't break the palette when you introduce new colours.

Hope that helps! I should really take my own advice too, because a lot of what I just said I didn't apply very well, the more consistent and mathematical about it you are, the better it will look :)
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thinkubus Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016  Professional
Wow thanks for the feedback!

Using existing images as a palette is undoubtedly the best way to get accurate results and allows you to work very quickly with such a wide range of colours to sample, but I am so bad when it comes to planning, too often I go in blind and just see what happens. Based on that I think my pre-painting phase should probably be what I focus on and try to put more time into visualising the image before realising it. With the results that you achieve it's clearly worth it! I'm glad you pointed out the underlying image in your painting, it's quite exciting to see the scaffolding peeping through!

I should spend more time building up my image database, I rely way too heavily on google for image resources which is impractical and means you really have to work to hide some elements to avoid any kind of property infringement.

Thinking about how coloured lights affect different coloured materials is something which I am completely lacking in my process, which I think will be the first thing that I prioritise in learning fully, what a difference it makes in your work! I'm sure I achieve it accidentally in places through just painting colour lightly onto other colour, but consciously trying to achieve it clearly yields fantastic results! A good point and a fine challenge.

Dude, thanks for taking the time to give a full response, it's awesome to get some proper feedback and get a good insight as to how you attack your work. 
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2016
You're welcome dude :)

For smaller simpler images I think it's sometimes quite ok to just jump in blind. But for more complex images, planning is really necessary. I do written brainstorming, search for references and make moodboards for every image, as well as some early exploration sketches. It's the sort of things your teacher tells you to do and you're like 'naaa I don't need to do that' and then as you get better as an artist you realise... 'shit.. I should have been doing that all along!' haha.

And don't worry about getting images from google. I think that's the best place to get images actually. Building your own library of personal photos is hopeless - trust me, I've tried! You can't just take a trip to Egypt if you want a photo of some hieroglyphics :)
The best way to avoid copyright problems is to always start with a drawing first. That way you are incorporating parts of photos into your drawing, almost as textures, rather than building a composition around cut out photo elements. It's more difficult but ultimately it will also give you wayyy more control over composition, mood, perspective etc. 
John Park has some really good videos on Gumroad that cover that kind of process if you're interested.

Good luck :)
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thinkubus Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016  Professional
Sweet man, thanks for the tip, I'll check some out as it looks like he's got some really awesome work on there, though I'll have to take it easy, I tend to splooge on these things and at £20 a pop that'll add up quickly!

Take it easy mate, thanks for the comments, and thanks for the watch! :)
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oRyder Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Awesome!
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Thanks! :)
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Georgeandasword Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Really cool!
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Thank you :)
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Eltair Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think the second woman looks like she knows something :) I really like the whole feeling here.
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Haha oops, that's unintentional! Thanks yo :)
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Eltair Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You are welcome. I am always impressed how people manage to make something on computer that actually looks like something :D
I try from time to time but whoo .. :)
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016
Well, it just takes a bit of practise and some understanding of light. I think everyone can learn to do it :)
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Eltair Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks :)
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JNinelives Featured By Owner Edited Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like the composition here. The running woman really captures my attention, and the other characters and scenery frame it well! (especially the shadowy swordbearer... his darker, earthen tones make an interesting contrast - he's in the centre of the scene but feels almost like a wall between the running woman and the mounted guard. Makes me wonder if he's guarding her.)
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
That is quite close to what I was going for :)
My idea was that the girl is helping a gladiator (the swordbearer) escape and that guards are patrolling the city looking for them. I don't think I communicated it very well but I'm glad that some of it came across!
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JNinelives Featured By Owner Edited Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, cool! ^^ Yeah, wasn't sure which one was being looked for :).
Reminds me a little of the Spartacus series!
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Hehe that series looks great actually, I should watch it!
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JNinelives Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^^
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malanotte Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016   Artist
I like it a lot!!!
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RhysGriffiths Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
Thanks :)
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